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Tuesday, September 02, 2014

വീ ജി യുടെ സര്‍ക്കുലര്‍ ശരിയോ? ചിക്കാഗോ റാലിയുടെ കണ്‍വീനര്‍ ഷിജുകുട്ടന്‍ പറയുന്നത് കേള്‍ക്കൂ.

പണ്ട് വടക്കന്‍ ഭാര്യയുടെയും ഭര്‍ത്താവിന്റെയും കാര്യം എഴുതിയത് വ്യക്തമായില്ല എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു ഒരു സര്‍ക്കുലര്‍ തള്ളി. ഇപ്പോള്‍ സര്‍ക്കുലര്‍ അയച്ചത് വിജി യാണ് . മെത്രാന്റെ സര്‍ക്കുലര്‍ മാത്രമേ ഞങ്ങള്‍ വിശ്വസിക്കൂ എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു അതും തള്ളി. അല്ല ഇതാരാണ് ഇത്ര വാശിക്ക് തള്ളുന്നത് എന്ന് നോക്കിയോ? കാനാക്കാര്‍ ആണ് എന്ന് ധരിച്ചെങ്കില്‍ തെറ്റി. മറ്റാരുമല്ല നമ്മുടെ സ്വന്തം എന്‍ഡോഗമി നേതാക്ന്മാര്‍ തന്നെ. വാശിക്കാണ് ഈമെയിലുകള്‍ വരുന്നത്. ഉള്ളടക്കം ഒന്ന് മാത്രം. മാറി കെട്ടിയവന്‍ എവിടെയാണ് എന്ന് പറയാത്തിടത്തോളം കാലം അവന്‍ നമ്മുടെ കൂടെ തന്നെ എന്ന് അങ്ങ് തീരുമാനിച്ചുകഴിഞ്ഞു. ഇത് പോലെ ആവേശത്തോടെ കളം ഉടക്കുന്നവരുടെ ലക്‌ഷ്യം എന്താണ്? അതിലേക്കു പോകുന്നതിന് മുന്‍പ് ഒരു അനുഭവ സാക്ഷ്യം ഇവിടെ കൊടുക്കുന്നു. 


നമ്മുടെ സ്വന്തം ഷിജു കുട്ടന്‍വക സര്‍ക്കുലറിനെ സംബന്ധിച്ച് അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ നമ്മുടെ സിനഡില്‍ എടുത്ത തീരുമാനത്തെ സംബന്ധിച്ച് നടത്തിയ സാക്ഷ്യമാണ്. അങ്ങേര്‍ ഫേസ്ബുക്കിലൂടെ ഇത് സംബന്ധിച്ച് നടത്തിയ സാക്ഷ്യവും അത് സംബന്ധിച്ച് നമ്മുടെ സ്വന്തം മൃഗഡോക്ടര്‍ അടക്കം ചില VIP കള്‍ നടത്തുന്ന സംഭാഷണവും ഇവിടെ കൊടുക്കുന്നു. വായിക്കുക പ്രബുദ്ധരാകുക. ഈ സംഭാക്ഷണം ഫെസ്ബുക്കില്‍ കൂടി പ്രച്ചരിച്ചുകൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നതായതിനാല്‍ ആണ് ഇവിടെ കൊടുക്കുന്നത്. ഇനി അത് നിങ്ങളുടെ ഫെസ്ബുക്കില്‍ കയറി ഹാക്ക് ചെയ്തു എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു വരരുത്.














































മുഴുവനും വായിച്ചു കഴിഞ്ഞു എങ്കില്‍ പറയുക. ഇവിടെ ഇങ്ങനെ ഒരു ഒര്ദര്‍ വന്നു എന്ന് പറയുന്നു അത് സത്യമാണ് എന്ന് ഒരു സഹോദരന്‍ പറയുന്നു. അത് മൂലക്കാട്ട് ഫോര്‍മുലയാണ് എന്നും അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ അതിനു നിയമ പ്രാബല്യമില്ല എന്നും വരുത്തിതീര്‍ക്കുവാന്‍ ഉള്ള ഒരു ശ്രമം നടക്കുന്നില്ലേ? വേറെ ആരുമല്ല. നമ്മുടെ സ്വന്തം ആളുകള്‍ തന്നെ. നമുക്ക് വിശ്വാസം ഇല്ല എങ്കില്‍ പിന്നെ ഈ സംഗതി കാനാക്കാര്‍ക്ക് എങ്ങിനെ മനസ്സിലാക്കിക്കും?


ഇനി ഇപ്പോള്‍ നടക്കുന്ന ഈമെയില്‍ പ്രളയത്തിന്റെ പിന്നാമ്പുറം. ഒരു പക്ഷെ ശ്രദ്ധിച്ചുകാണും സണ്ണികുട്ടന്‍ സടകുടഞ്ഞു എഴുന്നേറ്റു. എങ്ങിനെയും ഈ സംഗതിയെ മൂല്ക്കാടന് എതിരായി അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ പള്ളികള്‍ക്ക് എതിരായി അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ കാനാക്കാര്‍ക്ക് അനുകൂലമായി മാറ്റണം. എന്നാലെ പിടിച്ചു നില്‍ക്കുവാന്‍ സാധിക്കൂ. 

ഈയുള്ളവന്‍ ഇന്നലെ എഴുതിയിരുന്നു. കോട്ടയം രൂപതയിലെ എന്‍ഡോഗാമി വാഴ്ചക്ക് അനുകൂലമായി ഇതിലും വ്യക്തമായ ഏതെങ്കിലും തിരുവെഴുത്തു ഉണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ കാണിച്ചാല്‍ നന്ടികെട്ടവു മാത്രമല്ല സണ്ണികുട്ടനും ചെരച്ചു തരാം ഈ ബ്ലോഗര്‍ ചേട്ടന്‍. 

എന്റെ മക്കളെ ഈ അവസരം ഉപയോഗിച്ച് ഈ തിരുവേഴുത്തിനെ നമ്മുക്ക് അനുകൂലമാക്കി മാറ്റിയെടുക്കുക, പ്രാവര്‍ത്തികമാക്കുക. സമുദായ സ്നേഹം ആണ് നിങ്ങളെ ഭരിക്കുന്നത്‌ എങ്കില്‍....

43 comments:

  1. Spirit Leaders will always be enlightened by spirit only. They always will turn against spiritual leaders . This knanaya community is protected by God Almighty so far. But may not happen always.!!!! Please Pray for enlightenment of our community leaders.

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    1. We educated young adults understand the dirty political desires of Kannala, Joby and John. They really know how to destroy the knanaya community for their sake. They always want to be on top of KCCNA

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    2. THE HEAVY ACTIVITIES AND SHOWING OFF SOME PAPERS IN SEACRET ( THE AUTHENTICITY IS NEVER VERIFIED )BY THE V.G ALL SHOWS THAT KCCNAS PLANED SATYAGRAHA AND FILLING UP THE CATHEDRAL CHURCH WITH BLACK T-SHIRT IS GOING TO WORK....PLS DONT GET DISTRACTED ,STAY FOCUSEDE AND LET US MAKE IT HAPPEN

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    3. The paper shown( if shown) to Shiju is irrelavent as
      1.Shiju is not an official of KCCNA.
      2. he wan not allowed to make a copy of it.
      3. The content can be changed as he does not have a copy.
      4.In the future the syros can deny it and make Shiju a lier ( as he does not have a copy to prove his side )
      5. Our actons are working , so look for all kinds tactics to confuse us and fail our Satyagraha and Black T-shirt presence in the cathedral

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    4. North Americayil Knanayakkarkk endogamy kittilla ennuparangu latin churchil poyavar aarayi?.

      SASHIYAYI

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    5. Thanikya eppolado knanayism north amerikyail kittiyathu? Thande syro malabar palliyil thanike membership ondo do? Than oke ippum eppolum sandoshamaya pranchiyum munjiyum.

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  2. Dear Blogger, you know yourself that this letter and the socalled signature and everything is just a gimmick to make the common people fools as they want to avoid the Hunger strike in Chicago on the occasion of Rev. Joy Alappat.

    If you really love our community, dont just write whatever Muthu says and stand united with the common people. Angadiathu categorically said the institution of Kottayam Diocese was a mistake to Pope Pious 10th to the Trustee people who visited him. Do you think that a Bishop can simply say that the pope is wrong/

    They were successfully following the "Divide and rule formula" till this time. Now the churches and various groups of the Society are united. They tried level best to split this unity.

    It was a common fact known to other Bishops that nothing was discussed in the Synod about Knanaya and endogamy.

    The support received by Sabu chemmalakuzhy was a Shock treatment to the church leadership and eye opener.

    The letter by the VG and the so called signed letters by others are all part of the new game.

    If this matter is true, let them start issuing the membership immediately in the Knanaya churches, that way they can start convincing the people.

    Now after September, they will show another letter from anothr"Bharani" from Rome stating that the signed letetr is not acceptable to Rome and hence it is invalid.

    So dont be a fool.

    If these people are thinking that they are very smart and can make the people fools again let them know that there are people outside smarter than them ( There are people who are headmasters of the schools from where they learned these types of games")

    So please stop this type of BULLSHITS and stand united with the Knanaya people as yo already lost your credibility.

    of course community leaders must have done wrong before and now they all realize their mistake. To err is human...........

    So please stop doing these type of "Paid writing........" for MUTHU and stand with the common people if you really a Knanaya man.

    All the best

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    1. Joby, john and Kannala wants to help kana these f kings want to destroy knanaya and what ever they are doing is part of election stund. They know that endogamy is the only thing through which they can fool the ordinary knanaya peoples. Knanayisathil NANJU KALAKKI MEEN PIDIKKUNNA VANCHAKAR

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  3. The same people who were condemning Bharanikulangara, now relying him to not trust kottayam diocese and apnades. Are these leaders working for kana? Before question authenticity of the synod decision, is it acceptable? If not do you have any alternate? This leaders are proving again, they are just Dump as they were always

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  4. The above two commenters,

    1) validity of the signed letter.

    what was our fight for? whowere we fighting? all our fight was against syro for not allowing us to practice what we used to in KTM. Now you say that the letter from Syro is not valid. Are you serious?

    2) is it acceptable?

    Blogger chettan raised a valid question here. If we practiced endogamy with out even a clear instruction like this, why cant we do it such a clearly signed statement from the bishop whom we had been harassing for it for years? They laid the basics, now it is for us to practice it in the best possible way rather than fighting the shadow.

    come on guys, stop your BS for politics.

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  5. No one is going to stop you from doing the strike. Go and do it.

    But for what?

    Don't use endogamy as the reason because you already got it from the Syro Synod.

    Do it in retaliation for attempting to attack Chemmalakuzhy? that's a good reason

    Do it for the untimely and unprofessional statements of Bp.Angadiyath that Kottayam diocese was a mistake? That's a good reason

    But remember. if we start striking for the above reasons, look with in our community we will have hundreds of other reasons to strike our own leaders in our own community before going elsewhere.

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    1. Oh really, Did you get endogomy. How many Kilo. Then give us all two kilo each.

      Chumma po mone dinesha

      If the so called circular signed by three bishops are true, let them circulate it to all our churches including syro malabar churches. Also start giving membership immediately

      Otherwise, this is just a planned BS to make the Alappat bishop luxury a success

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  6. Sanju is a spy of Mullapally in to the Samrakshana Samithi. He works for Mullapally and owe him for his new position and job. Mullapally picked the right one to brain wash. Good luck

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    1. Both comment and reply from the same person. Wow !!

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  7. we should do hunger strike to protest against the convention scam in Chicago that led to food poisoning of most of the attendees.

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  8. Muprapally has not opened his mouth about the Synod decision. What does Sabu Chemmalakuzhy say about it?

    How can we make this decision in favor of the Knanaya Community?

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  9. I strongly condemned the Agadiath statement to our people. Pious X th is now proved saint to all. Mar Angadiath sign with his hand. He was also afraid publicaly making such a statement. ,He requested our delegate not to tape or take photo what he was going to say. Error is human!!!!! May be he was so much agitated as he was invited to our convention and our people protested him to be as main celebrant in the holly mass .

    There is no Moolakattu fomula, It was clearly stated in the convention by our bishop . Our Leaders need something in writing . We got it from competent authority. Let Chemalakuzy action make him a hero in our society. Why our so far called leaders could so anything like him so far. Our KCCNA President support him as chemalakuzhi is his nephew. All our action should be on hunger prayer programme., snd it should be inside the cathedral church. We have the right for it . No permission is required from any one.
    Are we all can trust and follow or so called Leaders. Ask ourselves. They paid $20000 for attorney fees for definition of knanaya .Another big sum for adopted children case. It was our fund. What results. What result for one lakhs signature. Let the kana bring any letter form Rome. Why we bother too much. If we are united along with our spiritual leaders. ,no one can do anything to us. If our spiritual leaders are wrong, let try to convince them. . We must have the courage to practice endogamy in our church. Any statement even from pope , we cannot accept. . We must have the courage to publish our membership list in our church. Church consist of families. If all family members cannot be members, no membership to them. . The statement is signed by supreme authority. Major Arch Bishop.
    Why we all Chicago people afraid of one Mullapally. and one Muthu. . All our leaders are closely one way or other connected with Mulla. . Some have direct deal and partnership with his business. Did any one have the cuts to say anything in front of him . Shame!!!!!

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    1. Chicago Knas are afraid of Muthu and Mulla beacause you are either Pranchis or Moonchies.

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    2. Good Comment bro.

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    3. Mulla is the one who financed the st marys church purchssed by Muthu. All the church leaders were there for the closing. Now those same leaders are in knanaya samrakshna samithi. What a joke

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  10. Sunny kuttan wants to be a kccna Joint secratary there for he start the dirty politics like he do always. Also his kids are going to marry vadakkans he need the post on kccna before that.

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  11. So, if the letter is true (apparently it is not worthy to be shared) then when will the membership list will be officially published? or are the spiritual leaders still worried about and scared off KANA? If they are worried about what KAN will do then this letter or the proclamation is not legitimate. Because, for it to be legitimate, it has to stand up to the scrutiny of ROME or other Catholic hierarchy.

    It doesn't matter what Shiju says or John Mathew says. The simple way to prove the legitimacy of this proclamation is to publish it and have the Syro defend it openly in front of all scrutiny.

    See, blind faith is required when it comes to God but NOT when it comes to humans.

    PS: My comments above are with the full understanding that this blog is just propaganda and will not change blogger's mind a bit but the comments are for others who read this blog.

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    1. The ordinary Knanayakkaar doesn't care about if the membership is issued or not. As long as a Non Knanaya doesnot come in, they are ok. The extra Ordinary and politically motivated leaders want the membership to be published so that they can give it to KANAs and let them go for the next battle and drink the blood of the Knanaya Community like a fox doing it out of the battle of the sheeps.

      Friends, open your eyes and think about it. DONOT DICEIVED BY THE CROOKEDNESS OF OUR LEADERS.

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    2. At the end of the day, what matters is whether we can have the same setup as we have in India. That is can we have a diocese and our own bishop who will not attempt to change our traditions or belittle it. For this to happen, you will need exclusive churches, official memberships, etc. If one only wants a Knanaya church in name only or questions the need of Knanaya identity then just go to a Syro Malabar church and be happy. I am not saying this out of spite rather it is just that simple.

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  12. It does not matter who said what, who saw what or who wrote what in which meeting.

    As a knanaite living in North America, my Bishop is Mar Angadiath and my priest is my Knanaya church Parish Priest. As long as MY Parish priest gives MY knanaya Family a dignified membership as per the instructions of MY Bishop, i will agree.

    So ask yourself a question - Has your parish priest agreed to issue parish membership as per the new synod norms & agreed to by Angadiath Bishop? If answer is YES, great!! If answer is NO, then this is another old tricks of the trade to mislead and misguide Knanayites using the ecclesiastical, political, financial and media power blessed to few individuals by God almighty. They want to consolidate their goals and grab more.

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  13. AHARAVUM, HENNASY iyum illatha samarathinu njan pokunnilla... I will go if KCCNA will provide hennasy at the end for the long long pattini samaram...Nethakkanmarude thadi kurayumo? Aarkokke gas kerum? oru neram aharam kazhikkathe jeevikkan kelpulla knanayakar Amerikkayil undo????

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  14. All of us believed Mar Agadiath Letter without seeing it. Last week All the Priests read VG's letter same way as they did Bishop's letter back in Dec 13. The only difference is most of the knanaya people now thinking VG letter is some kind of fake aggression to suppress the hunger strike. THAT'S WRONG. SYRO MALABAR SYNOD ADDRESSED AND VERIFIED.
    Those who do not think the letter is legitimate-you do not believe in knanaya brethren but do so in vadakkans. Most of the Church's & Missions already started on Membership processing.
    All knanaya church's and Missions are Endogamous for Membership. Our priests can provide their service and facility to any non knanaya people at their discretion (for a fee). Upon completion of this service they will receive a letter to take it back to their own parish for recording purpose.
    Membership Criteria
    1)All Knanaya families (Father, Mother, kids) must be born off a knanaya parents.
    2) A single knanaya youth leaving alone in USA (both parents must be a Knanaya)
    3) Religious Servers (Priest, Sisters regardless of their affiliation, Brothers born off knanaya Parents)

    KNANAYA CATHOLICS FOR CHRIST
    KCFC

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    1. Hello, can you please tell the name of At least one SINGLE KNANAYA PARISH who started giving membership to Knanaya people. Can you give the name of at least one person who got the membership in a Knanya church.

      If no, then please shut up and unite with the people who are doing hunger strike for the existance of our community

      A poor Knanaya Catholic

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    2. മുഗളിൽ പറഞ്ജ്യത് ഒക്കെ വലീച്യറ്റിൽ കൊണ്ടുവന്നു സാധാരണ കാര് ആയ നമുല്ലേ തെളിയിക്യൻ സമയം ആയി.

      എതെരെയോ സത്യം കൽ കേട്ടുരിക്യുന്നു. കേട്ട് കേട്ട് മാടതു സരുമാരെ. ഇനിയു ഒന്ന് സത്യം എന്താന്ന കനിക്യാഗ. ധെവായു.

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  15. St. Mary's Knanaya Catholic Church of Detroit has membership of all its registered parish Members. The membership started when the Mission was approved and continued when the it became a parish and continues till today. Toms Kizhakkekkattil Mathew was given the option to register as member by the Vicar and parish council members during the initial formation. He refused to join stating that Mar Angadiath told him that it was his choice to join the church established exclusievely for knanaya catholics. He is still currently the member of St Thomas Syro Malabar Catholic Church in Southfied, MI which is for non knanaya people. He even produced the kuri for his nephews baptism from the non knanaya church to the vicar. He is a looser and a liar. KCCNA gave him an award. All he has done for the knanaya community is that he sends hate filled emails along with the hijida kccna secretary.
    The only church that does not have the balls to prevent mullapally from joining is Morton Groove church. That is because the so called endogamy leaders like thottapuram, koovan, koottooran, shiju, kulangara, kizhakkekuttu, kaniyali, nanikettavan etc have no interest in the community. They just want to cheat everyone.

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  16. What do these idiot so called leaders know? All knanaya catholic churches in north america have members. All members pay their dues to the church. All churches have a membership database. Who are all these idiots trying to fool --- the pothujanam who are all kazhuthas. That is why the thottapurams, poozhikalas, akasalas, kottooorans, kulangaras, koovans, and all these parasites survive in north america.
    The KANA idiots mullapallys, kalayils, oravanakulams, kannalas, nirappels all are a bunch of hijidas who just want to destroy the knanaya people joining hands with these kccna leadership. look at that idiot in kottayam mupprapally, babu poozhikunnel etc all a bunch of loosers

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    1. Dear Idiot. YOu pay to the church like all of us pay. But that does not mean that membership. First try to understand what is the meaning of written membership in a church.
      then write this type of Idiotic muthu style comments

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    2. Dear Idiot . Go check in these churches, they have a file with membership forms duly filled by members. You dont have a membership in knanaya church because you dont pay and you have an oosu membership in vadakken palli.

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    3. Dear Idiot, Can you even make a muthu style comment....................can you speak properly

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    4. Dear Anoymous , 7.34 PM None of the knanaya churches have a official registered membership and all we are paying is like cash donations. lastly about Detroit Tom , he is a really Knanaya and his spine is made up of steel.All you guys were cheated by Muthukutten and he proved in the town hall meeting that the Syro malabar and Knanaya churches are operating under one bylaws infrount of Mar Mathew Moolakattil and Fr. Mulavanal. Go and watch the town hall video in the Youtube and learn the facts.

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    5. Cont. You all are fighting each other for power ! why can't you focus for saving our community instead of pointing fingers to everyone. You know that there is no real knanaya churches in USA and all churches are just using the name Knanaya" to fool people like me and you .Like I said please understand the reality and act wisely.

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    6. Hahahaha.........................Detroit Tom does not know anything. His spine made up of steel.....hahaha funny. Kottayam Diocese is Syro Malabar. It is your ignorance that knanaya churches dont have membership. Even that kaniyali guy was saying on TV. What a fool. What did you prove by proving both operate under one by-law. There is no bylaw, there is only procedure rules for syro malabar diocese.

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    7. Dear Anonymous Fools.......See the comment below from a very senior member of our community who is also a scholar and a very respectable person.He says this is a landmark victory. What is the credibility of Detroit Tom, kottoraans, kaniyalis, nannikadans, koovans, kulangars and the rest of the idiots in front of him. Go get a life and tell that chemalakuzhy to go and be a saakshi for one more kana wedding. Bunch of hypocrites, morons

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    8. Please do one thing ,watch KCCNA town hall meeting YouTube video and start write again here , any way brother “You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”.

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  17. The burning issues of the Knanaya community
    ( Joseph Pathyil)
    My friend Stephen Thottananiyil invited my comments on the critical issues of the Knanaya community today. It is with reluctance that I undertake the task. “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.”
    Allow me to refer briefly and broadly to the Southist history in India of nearly 17 centuries. Our ancestors were adept at survival skills. In the 4th century Thomas of Kana and his people were warmly received by the then king of the place. The community settled near the port of Kodungallor for obvious trading reasons. They were on excellent terms with the native Christians and non-Christian neighbours. When the chieftain of Kozhikode attacked Kodungalloor, the Southists moved with their scant belongings to Kochi and other safer places. Through the centuries the community demonstrated its genius for adaptation in order to ensure its survival. The Knananites were merchants in Kaduthuruthy, and when the king of Travancore plundered the merchants, they bought rice fields in Manjoor, Neendoor, Kallara, Kaipuzha etc. Others carried on trade in Thodupuzha, and agriculture in other places. In 1663 the community offered to pay all expenses when Father Chandy
    Parambil was consecrated as the first Indian Bishop in the Knanaya church of Kaduthuruthy, thus ensuring his life-long indebtedness to the Southist community. Members of the Southist community helped finance Fr. Joseph Kariattil to go to Rome and become a bishop in 1783. In 1886 Father Makil petitioned Rome to be under the Latin bishop rather than a Nordist bishop. In 1910 Bishop Makil negotiated with the brother bishops of Kerala to get their support for a separate diocese. In the division that followed in 1911 the newly erected vicariate lost a couple of parishes. Mar Makil also had to accept personal jurisdiction rather than territorial jurisdiction (which is at the very root of the dispute of membership in the Knanaya parish). But Bishop Makil accepted these as inevitable.
    The Knanaites were always a tiny community, a microscopic minority, but has had a genius for survival. This brief , but incomplete, history cited above, brings me to the impasse of today. Stephen asks me: “Can you please suggest how we can protect Knanaya community from extinction?”
    My considered opinion is that in order to ensure our survival we need to adapt. Let me explain:
    I had not expected that the Syro Malabar synod would accede to the demand of the Archbishop of Kottayam not to give membership in our churches to spouses and children of those who married outside the community. This is a landmark decision and a victory of no small consequence. The pronouncement of the synod has pre-empted the objections of the Oriental Congregation, and potential discussion at the Conference of American Bishops. As for membership in parishes to those born of Knanaya parents, who married from outside, I think they cannot be denied: not in law, not in church; not in America. Membership in associations is an entirely different matter.

    As the son of one of the founding fathers of The Knanaya Catholic Mahajana Sabha, presently called Knanaya Catholic Congress, as one who helped draft the constitution and by-laws of KCCNA, as one who privately and then publicly opposed the concept of KCDCNA that would have spelled the death knell of KCCNA, as one who loves this community even as I approach four score years, I feel that the only way forward is to accept this historical decision. Some might call it a Pyrrhic victory; but in order to ensure the survival of the community globally, this is the only way. Compromise on non-essentials or suffer potential disintegration; bend, rather than break.
    May the resilience of our ancestors, be our guide when making momentous decisions.
    Best wishes to all.

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  18. I do personally consider the written formula by the Syro-Malabar Bishops conference (SMBC), as a historic victory for the Knanaya community, not because we have achieved our goal as a community, but more so because, for the first time in the History of the Syro-Malabar Church we have a written formula, which they supposedly claim is for the benefit of our knanaya community, and some of our community members including our church hierarchy consider as a historic decision for our Knanaya community. Let me use my limited knowledge gained from what I have read and heard and try to give my comparison of the two formulas:

    1) Mar Makil’s Century Old Formula: It has been, and still is the practice of the Archdiocese of Kottayam to completely honor the Family value and the Blessed Sacrament of Marriage taught by the Catholic Church and the Bible, that through the Sacrament of marriage, husband and wife shall become one flesh, and thus request the Knanaya who opts to marry from a non-knanaya parish to voluntarily join the non-knanaya parish for the sake of their family unity and to be obedient to the teachings of the Catholic Church. If the Syro-Malabar church interprets this as against the teachings of the Catholic Church and the establishment of Kottayam diocese itself as a mistake by Rome, then let’s see how their recent formula relates to the teachings of the Catholic Church about marriage and family!

    2) SMBC 2014 Formula: If a knanaya parish member opts to marry a non-knanaya parish member, then the knanaya member will continue to be the member of the knanaya church and his non-knanaya spouse and their children will continue as members of the non-knanaya church. While I wonder if they have taken into consideration all the practical situations like adoption, Divorced knanaya parent with custody of their non-knanaya children, single knanaya parent with non-knanaya children etc, what wonders me the most is the fact that through this decision they will have to rewrite the versus in Bible like Genesis 2:24; Mathew 9:5; Ephesians 5:31 etc to read as follows for the sake of these mixed marriage couple: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh, but shall remain members of two parishes”! Furthermore they have to make a new addition to the Statement of Intentions preceding their marriage Vows to read as follows: “Do you accept the decision of the SMBC 2014 and agree that the non-knanaya spouse and their children shall continue as members of their non-knanaya parishes for the rest of their lives”? And the Bride and the Groom shall respond “I DO”!!!!!!!!!! J

    Based on the two formulas above, I personally believe that Mar Makil’s Century old formula is much more closely related to the values of the family that our Catholic Church teaches than the SMBC formula. Now if there is a better comparison that our Church hierarchy was convinced that the SMBC 2014 formula is better that Mar Makil’s formula, then they have an obligation to make us understand that, with their rational rather than expecting us to accept what they read in a positive way. The good side I see about the decision from the SMBC is that it has opened the door for us to compare the existing two formulas and get the opinion of the people to see which they feel is more appropriate from a Christian/catholic’s stand point of view of a FAMILY.

    But to achieve all this we should first and foremost become united as one community and prayerfully analyze the situation in our own mind without blindly swallowing what is thrown at us. I hope the Unification of the Chicago Knanites will stay strong and withhold any attempt for division and that this unification will spread to the other units and we can together as one Knanaya community convince Rome that our Mar Makil’s century old formula is more Catholic than the recent SMBC 2014 formula rather than just fighting for Endogamy. Long live our Knanaya community.
    Thank You
    Sunil Madhavapallil

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