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Monday, August 12, 2013

അതെ പുതിയ അവതാരം ആട് പ്രാഞ്ചി. കൂടാതെ സഹകരണത്തിന്റെ പുതിയ പാഠം കൂടി ചിക്കാഗോയില്‍ നിന്നും



ഇന്നലത്തെ പ്രധാന വാര്‍ത്ത (നന്ടികാടന്‍ വക ഷിക്കാഗോ ക്നാ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിച്ചത് ) ആട് പ്രാഞ്ചിയെ പറ്റിയുള്ള വാര്‍ത്തയായിരുന്നു. പതിവ് പോലെ അടി വഴിപാടോടെ ഒരു തിരുനാള്‍ കൂടി ഷിക്കാഗോയില്‍ സമാപിച്ചപ്പോള്‍ മനസ്സിലായ ചില വസ്തുതകള്‍ ഈയുള്ളവന്റെ വായനക്കാരുമായി പങ്കു വെയ്ക്കാന്‍ ആഗ്രഹിക്കുകയാണ്.


  • പോലീസിനെയല്ല പട്ടാളത്തിനെ നിര്‍ത്തിയാലും ക്നാനായക്കാര്‍ മദ്യം കുടിക്കും. ഈയൊരു കാരണം മാത്രം മതി ഷിക്കാഗോയിലെ രണ്ടു പള്ളികളും ക്നാനായ പള്ളികള്‍ എന്നാ പേരിനു അര്‍ഹമാകാന്‍ എന്ന് തോന്നിപോകും. മദ്യം ഇല്ല എങ്കില്‍ എന്‍ഡോ ഗാമി നഷ്ടമാകുമോ എന്നൊരു സംശയം ചിലര്‍ക്കെങ്കിലും ഇല്ലാതില്ല.
  • പ്രാഞ്ചിയാകാന്‍ വേണ്ടി എന്തും ചെയ്യും എന്നുള്ളതിന്റെ ഉത്തമ ഉദാഹരണമായി മാറി ലേലം വിളി.  വെറും നൂറ്റമ്പതു ഡോളര്‍ വിലയുള്ള സാദാ മുട്ടനാട് ലോകത്തില്‍ ഏറ്റവും വിലകൂടിയ ആടായി മാറിയ അതുഭ്ത മുഹൂര്‍ത്തം. പോരെ പോടീ പൂരം.
  • ഇനി ലേലത്തിന്റെ അവസാനം ഒരു അടിപിടി കൂടിയായപ്പോള്‍ ബഹു കേമം എന്നെ പറയുവാന്‍ സാധിക്കൂ.എന്തായാലും അടികൊള്ളാന്‍ ഇത്തവണയും വിധിക്കപ്പെട്ടത് പോലച്ച്ചന്‍ തന്നെ. പതിവ് തെറ്റിക്കാന്‍പറ്റില്ലല്ലോ. 
  • രണ്ടു പള്ളികളും തമ്മില്‍ സഹകരിക്കും സഹകരിച്ചു എന്നൊക്കെ മുത്തു വിളിച്ചു വര്‍ണ്നിച്ച്ചപ്പോള്‍ സഹകരണം ഇത്രയും ആകും എന്ന് ഓര്‍ത്തില്ല പാവം പോളച്ചന്‍. എന്തായാലും ഇത്തവണത്തെ അടി വഴിപാടു മേയ്വുഡ് പള്ളിക്കാര്‍ വക ഇരിക്കട്ടെ. പോലച്ച്ചനും സന്തോഷം.
  • ഇത്തവണ ഏലക്കാമാല ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നുവെങ്കില്‍ എന്ന് നമ്മുടെ ഏലക്കാ പ്രാഞ്ചിമാര്‍ ആഗ്രഹിച്ചു കാണും. കാരണം അത് മറ്റൊരാള്‍ മേടിച്ചാല്‍ മാത്രമല്ലേ സ്വന്തം തലയില്‍ വന്ന പേര് ഒന്ന് ഒഴിഞ്ഞു മാറൂ. പക്ഷെ എന്ത് ചെയ്യാനാ. എല്കാ പ്രാഞ്ചി എന്നുള്ള പേര് സ്ഥിരമായ ലക്ഷണമാണ്.
ഇനിയും എഴുതണം എന്നുണ്ട്. സമയവും സാഹചര്യവും അനുവദിക്കുന്നില്ല. എന്തായാലും ഇങ്ങനെ നമുക്ക് പള്ളികള്‍ ഉള്ളതിനാല്‍ നാട്ടിലെ പ്രതീതിയോടെ തിരുനാളുകള്‍ ആഘോഷിക്കുവാനും ആ ആഘോഷങ്ങള്‍ ഗ്രൂപ്പ് വിത്യാസം ഇല്ലാതെ ആഘോഷമാക്കുവാനും സാധിക്കുന്നുണ്ടല്ലോ. പള്ളി പൂട്ടിക്കാന്‍ നടക്കുന്നവര്‍ കണ്ണ് തുറന്നു കാണട്ടെ.

109 comments:

  1. Some one from pranchi's side should pay the 5000 dollars. Poor jose kutty works in a gas station and 5000 dollars probably his one year savings. Pranchi's gave liquor to this young man prior to the auction and placed him in front of the goat. Jose kutty is a nice guy and felled in the trap.

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    1. Adu pranchiye adu moonchiyakkalle Mone. All moonchis had the free kallu, then why only one fell in trap? If you feel sorry for him you pay. How will you, you too Moonchi.

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    2. Ithellam paranjadan patticha paniyaaa.... he said punnathura kar split chyeum ennu....

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    3. Yup.. Tinu Paranjadan is behind this.. he should never have pushed Josekutty.. Tinu should pay half..

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  2. Any news from yesterday general body meting? (Houston)

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    1. Nothing Happened. The attorney explained same old things and there is no proof against anybody. Sajan was crying again because he did not get a chance to talk at the church during Fr. Illis farewell function. He don't want to pay church dues, he hates the church, he want to close down the church and HE NEED THE MIKE TO TALK AT CHURCH. I wonder what a bullshit personality he is.

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    2. I am happy to know that Houston KCS Spend another $ 10,000.00 for the Detective work done by the Attorney. Nothing is proved and Knanaya Peoples lost another 10,000.00 Good job by Sajan & Team.

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    3. In Houston everyone was crying about the purchase of a bankrupt property for church and loosing millions of dollars. No one knows about the difference between chapter 11 bankruptcy and chapter 7 bankruptcy including the so called attorney. The property owner at 6400 Fuqua filed a chapter 11 bankruptcy and it not chapter 7 which is the liquidation of assets or foreclosure.

      Please read and understand what is chapter 11 bankruptcy. Also understand that most of the CPAs and Attorneys advise there business clients to file chapter 11 bankruptcy to reduce the debts and liabilities or to negotiate with banks to get a better interest rate. All the Houston fools are under the impression that once anybody file a chapter 1 bankruptcy then they can buy that property for half of its price.

      Chapter 11, entitled Reorganization, ordinarily is used by commercial enterprises that desire to continue operating a business and repay creditors concurrently through a court-approved plan of reorganization. The chapter 11 debtor usually has the exclusive right to file a plan of reorganization for the first 120 days after it files the case and must provide creditors with a disclosure statement containing information adequate to enable creditors to evaluate the plan. The court ultimately approves (confirms) or disapproves the plan of reorganization. Under the confirmed plan, the debtor can reduce its debts by repaying a portion of its obligations and discharging others. The debtor can also terminate burdensome contracts and leases, recover assets, and rescale its operations in order to return to profitability. Under chapter 11, the debtor normally goes through a period of consolidation and emerges with a reduced debt load and a reorganized business.

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    4. There was not even a single credible finding. What ever the attorney presented was already the gossip of the community. The big bucks you paid the attorney is gone for nothing. I am sure this attoney loves knanaya people for the free money. File one more case. He can make some more.

      My observation: cunning people declined to be in the new committee. Some extremists driven by emotion agreed to be in the committee. Any how Joy learned a lesson. He told that he does not want to take initiative for any action.

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    5. Now the builders ate coming against the buyers. They lost the tea between the cup and the lip, you corrupt church buying mafia. They will get you.

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    6. It is money loving not church loving. How many amoung them believe in god?

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    7. Dear Sajan & Co.

      You peoples are still under fools paradise and thinking that if you go for a law suite against the church then you will get back the $ 3000.00 you paid for church buying. Please under stand the following facts:

      In most situations, once a donor has made a gift to charity, the gift becomes the property of the charitable organization and the donor retains little authority over use or expenditure of the funds.

      The only situation where the donor has control over the donated cash or property is if the donor given directive in writing and the donated cash or property is transferred to a restricted fund. In Houston no one donated with specific directive in writing. So it is simple that you never get back that money. Secondly if a donor who already claimed the charitable deduction on his tax return does not have any right even if it is a restricted fund.

      Now the main point is that in Houston most of the peoples provided signed pledge forms to the church saying that they will pay a lump some amount of money to the church within a specified period of time. And these forms are used to get the mortgage loan from the bank. Now if these peoples are not paying then the church can demand money based on these pledge forms. Sajans pledge form is for $ 10,000.00 so dear sajan you will end up paying another $ 10,000.00 to the church soon.

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    8. Only chazhis have access to such vital data in the church.

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  3. 7900 West Fuqua Street, Missouri City, TX was used to appraise and to boost the appraisal amount of 6400 West Fuqua Street, Missouri City, TX. The city told the attorney that it is a clerical error and asked the attorney 'why do you care? you don't pay taxes on church so the appraisal can be as high as someone want. Both the above properties are owned by the same pastor. Why all these drama? why they had to boost the appraisal amount just before buying the property? Think knanaya guys.

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    1. A huge majority voted to report the scandal in buying the church to the district attorney and the real estate commission.

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    2. There were only about 200 people for the meeting and you call that a huge majority..............dumbass

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    3. Up to 600 I counted there. Definitely there were more.

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    4. Let the Houston KCS report the case to District Attorneys office and Real Estate Commission, that is the only way Babu and Jaychan can prove their innocence. One more thing if the District Attorney clears them then you peoples should accept Babu and Jaychen as saints. Because they suffered a lot of emotional stress because they served the community

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    5. Also we need to report to the attorney that the HKCS is not paying property tax or income taxes, and under the umbrella of a Charitable organization it is running a rental business, we should report this to the District Attorneys office and to the IRS. We should also report the case of KCCNA because the convention seems to be a profitable venture and the KCCNA should pay tax on what ever profit it is making on the Convention. KCCNA applied for tax exempt status showing that it is a religious organization but in fact now it does not have any religious affiliation with any of the catholic diocese. We should report this to IRS. Let us clear all the corruptions and make the American Knanaya peoples straight forward.

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    6. Got your share?

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    7. Hey, who counted 600. You don't even know to count. Appachan told you to go to school, but you did not follow his advice. Why don't these folks enroll again in the school and start learning something!

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    8. please ask john sir, he only submitted paper in city.

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  4. Out 200 people 100 people are the family members of HKCS executives.

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    1. Are they are not the HKCS members?
      what is your problem?

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    2. They are in the business of kooli voting in HKCS. Born for nothing but a waste.

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  5. Filing a case and winning a case are tottaly diferent things!
    HKCS never learn a lesson because it is full of radicals. They do not understand logic and truth.

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    1. THINK THINK THINK

      The bank never give a loan if the property is appraised right.

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    2. Houston and Dallas Knanaya churches bought almost same time.

      In houston, The Association (HKCS) played politics and never helped the Mission to buy the church.

      In Dallas, The Association (KCA) helped the mission to buy the church.

      This is a lesson for all Knanaya leaders all over the USA.

      When Association help the Mission to buy a church, that community will grow .

      When Association play politics with Mission that community will be divided.



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    3. Dallas mission called general body meeting more than 3 times to buy the church, whereas Houston mission collected money for construction and ended up with buying without a single general body meeting
      Who played politics Only the mission authorities and 5-6 peoples in this community.
      should think again before writing HKCS played politics. If so why do they donated land for the church.

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    4. I am sorry, but the author Anonymous August 12, 2013 at 12:28 PM has incorrect information. The Dallas kna mission belonged to the Church and they called for a church meeting. But the Dallas kna society did not call for three meetings as one may be led to believe.

      Kna Society of Dallas leaders cheated their members, resulting in a few society members to file a lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed against the President, Secretary and a third person at an individual capacity. I am told the case was a very strong one. After these member's demands were met, the lawsuit was withdrawn. The society did not pay a penny to the Kna church.

      Learn from Dallas how not to use the society's money for the church.

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    5. you said it. Now tell us how may times Houston mission called general body meeting for this church buying process.
      who denied it. there lies the problem, Money looting mafia in the name of church buying process.

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    6. Remember the policies of the St Thomas diocese is more autocratic than democratic. So it's immaterial the number of mertings Houston had as all decisions could be nullified by the priest or bishop.

      Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome is called insanity. So don't keep supporting this mission expecting they will change. To make a change, be the agent of change

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  6. Mr.Sajan, do somethig that will unite the community. You are doing everything, that is dividing the community.

    THINK POSITIVE

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    1. SAJAN POTTAN, VATTAN.PANI PORAGAA VARUNONDU........

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    2. Sajane pedippichchu ee thirimari moodi veykkaam ennu karuthanda. sajanu nattellu undu mone.

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  7. As we all signed up, lets go ahead with filing a complaint with Texas, state attorney. If at least 50 people sign the petition, it's good enough for the state attorney to start a criminal investigation. And remember it's at the expense of state and nobody has to pay anything. Lets also proceed the complaint against the real estate commission. again it's free. we might have to go to give them evidence and facts., But no cost. So no need to worry about spending money. And these people will do a through and neutral trial. What ever the outcome of it, lets accept it and go ahead. If nobody has done anything wrong, then nobody has to worry about it and it will clear the doubts that is out there. And if it's the other way, then the wrong doing people should be punished.

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    1. You said it, Let the state investigate it and clear everything. If anybody did anything wrong let them got punished

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    2. Also a complaint should be filed to review the non profit status of the association who uses the name catholic to evade taxes??
      Are they catholic? If so , What the charity they do? The only thing they do fight the church and trying to close down a church which is used by thousands. Should they get tax benefit for doing this dirty work?

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    3. yes. we should do both. Also need to investigation of the forceful collection of 500$ in the church, not admitting the kids for "vedapadam" for the unpaid families. Is that also a forceful charity?

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    4. Naya paisa kodukkan kaziyilla. vedapaadam padikkukayum venam.

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    5. yes. as you stated Church is a non profit charitable org right? Don't be a frog in a well, raise your head and look around. Which church other than this one put the condition which says that " we will not teach the Bible to your kid unless you pay the money" ? What kind of moral is that? Jesus asked to go around the world and teach Bible. and a church is saying " pay the money first to learn Bible "....hahahaha and you call it a church and call the donkey who say it a Priest?

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    6. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TAKE YOUR KIDS AROUND THE WORLD TO LEARN BIBLE
      THERE ARE SAYING IN THE BIBLE THAT, "give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God."

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    7. Some moonji family kids want to teach 'vedapaadam'. Someone please publish the list of sunday school kids and teachers and their family contribution to church and society.

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    8. so is this hte collection to Caesar the Meladam?

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  8. Dear Friend,
    Good terminology 'Think Positive".
    it should start from beginning. If you really wish to regain the unity of this community, please think about the following:

    1) Take corrective action for the all the mistakes done during the church buying process ( money loss, weakening the integrity of majority of the peoples, lack of attention to public's demand, arrogant behavior, wrong and hurried decisions and influence of remote control over this community affairs etc)

    2) church leaders should accept that Society always stands for the cultural and social welfare of the knanaites in Houston.

    3) Peoples longed and donated for church were stayed from this church due to non democratic/ non Christian ways of execution in many aspects and you peoples named them as "palli virodhikal"
    Try to listen to them and love them instead of forcing them not to come to our church.

    4) listen carefully to the words of Mr. Simon karical. If unity to be regained in the community, then creative and non partial involvement is very much required from the side of our kottayam & Chicago bishops along with local priest.

    5) HKCS president alone cannot make it, should be initiated from higher authorities through simple and effective face to face meeting with public and punish the culprits whoever done wrong to the community and regain the public confidence.

    6)Sajan is the president till Dec 31 2013 only. Then comes new elected one but the bishops are the same and they can do more than anyone else.

    Please think out of the box and consider community at large, not for any individual's selfish goal. What does this 3 man commission do this community. why can't they attend the general body meeting if they really wished for a solution for current problems.

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    1. Leave the commission alone man. They only give some advise at the end.

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    2. Mr. Anonymous, you conveniently skipped some facts about Houston church construction. Don't you know that society refused to give easement to the proposed church behind the community center. It is common sense that no city will grant permit without easement. Again, who played dirty game by lying to the city about the proposed church. Who went to the bank to cancel the approved loan. The only answer is society. Now the " so called community lovers" are the root cause for not allowing to build the church behind the community center. I heard that you guys are regretting your stupidity by confessing to close allies.

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    3. Did you notice the new committee is made of few high school drop outs. Don't these people know that the real estate commission does not speak malayalam.

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  9. Very very correct.
    Minority still says forget everything and keep on paying 500 to solve the problems. it will not do it unless you pin point the root cause.
    If radiation doesn't help the cancer problem, we should amputee that part for the sake of rest of the body. same way some cancer minded peoples in this community should be expelled for the sake of rest of the people.

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    1. All english churches charge only $250-300 for a membership. They keep the church crystal clean and everything is super there. malayalis started running church and they are charging $500 per family. Where is the extra money going? Corruption in church buying, church lover's pocket and priest's home. Stop this reduce annual contribution to $200. There are 450 families that is enough to run a church.

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    2. August 13, 2013 at 8:36 AM

      Correct. We should reduce it to $200 in next general body meeting. There are some here who don't want to work to make money.

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    3. AnonymousAugust 13, 2013 at 8:36 AM

      All english churches charge only $250-300 for a membership. They keep the church crystal clean and everything is super there.
      DID YOU KNOW THAT THEIR SUNDAY COLLECTIONS GOES UPTO 30-40,000.
      REGARDING CLEANLINESS- AS LONG AS PEOPLE LIKE U COME TO CHURCH WITH A DIRTY MIND IT IS OBVIOUS THAT U WILL FIND DIRT EVERYWHERE.

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    4. BEFORE YOU DO AMPUTATION WE STILL HAVE CHEMOTHERAPY AND TRIAL DRUGS TO TRY

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    5. Why don't you go to pentecostal churches. It is free. More over you will get free kanji. You belong to that class.

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  10. lets go ahead with filing a complaint with Texas, state attorney. If at least 50 people sign the petition, it's good enough for the state attorney to start a criminal investigation. And remember it's at the expense of state and nobody has to pay anything. Lets also proceed the complaint against the real estate commission. again it's free. we might have to go to give them evidence and facts., But no cost. So no need to worry about spending money. And these people will do a through and neutral trial. What ever the outcome of it, lets accept it and go ahead. If nobody has done anything wrong, then nobody has to worry about it and it will clear the doubts that is out there. And if it's the other way, then the wrong doing people should be punished.

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    1. Dont you guys have any other work home? Instead of trying to destroy the church, why dont you guys take care of your family and lead your help. If you dont like church dont go there. LIVE AND LET OTHERS LOVE.

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    2. How come the above stuff is destroying the church? the criminal investigation is not against the church or the priest. It's about the people who involved in church buying process to check if there was any corruption involved. Church should be happy about it and it's costing nothing to nobody. cheers.

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    3. August 12, 2013 at 8:24 PM
      I know you are from the family who benefitted from the church buying. Don't steal public money under the pretence of love for church and make a fortune just by that and come to the church and pretent like you are something there and transfer priests at your will. Answer the police.

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    4. They are coming to prove it. Dad and mom home?

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  11. THE ATTORNEY JUST PRESENTED A CHRONOLOGICAL DATES OF THE PROCESS OF THE
    CHURCH BUYING THROUGH A POWER POINT PRESENTATION. THE WAY hkcs SPREAD THE NEWS WAS THAT THERE WILL BE HISTORICAL REVELATION OF TRUTH.SHAME ON HKCS EXECUTIVE TO SPEND $10,000 FOR THAT.SEVERAL OF THE NUTS THINKS THAT CHAPTER11 BANKRUPSY IS A FORECLOSURE. WHEN SOMEBODY ASKED HE SAID HE DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. GOOD INVESTIGATOR.SAJAN PL GO FOR THAT OLD JAIL JOB....

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  12. Barney song:- I love you,
    you love me,
    we are a happy family

    Houston Knanaya song:- I sue you,
    you sue me,
    we are a happy family

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    1. Well done Mr.Poet. Since u r a member of this knanaya community I am sure that u have a great chance of nurturing your poetry skills and let THE SKY be your limit. I request you to sing this beautiful song to Sajan's ears.

      ALL THE BEST

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  13. You can fool eveybody for a SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

    you can fool few people ALL THE TIME.

    BUT you can not fool everybody all the time.



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  14. TO
    Sajan,
    Every body in Houston community know that you won the election with family vote[ex. pranchy cherukara for a second term instead of choosing an able candidate from our community] and with a very narrow margin.
    Now my question is that you already spent huge amount of money towards filing a case against Our own community's church and you spent another huge sum for detective investigation. IS THIS MONEY FROM YOUR POCKET? OR FROM SOCIETY? If it is SOCIETY MONEY THAT BELONGS TO EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.
    1.WHO GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO SPEND THAT HARD EARNED MONEY AT YOUR LEISURE?
    2.THIS MONEY YOU USED TO DIVIDE THIS COMMUNITY.DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPLANATION FOR YOUR ACTION TO COMMUNITY, WHO CHOSE U AS OUR LEADER?
    3.SINCE YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT OF THIS COMMUNITY YOU HAVE A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY BACK THIS MONEY ,YOU SPENT FOR NOTHING.
    AS YOU SAID IN THAT GENERAL BODY MEETING" THIS IS MY HARD EARNED MONEY.I WILL DECIDE WHERE SHOULD I SPEND IT".
    I AM REQUESTING ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMUNITY TO REPAY OUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO SOCIETY FUND AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE A MAN OF PRINCIPLE.

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    1. Who the mud ass is this?
      Did you ask the above questions when we bought the church and lost millions on that process?

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    2. Very true. If he is great let him go on an election without massaging the buts of families with no birth control and win it with 90% votes and prove. This is just family business who will respect such victory.

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    3. Hi,
      For your information not a single penny is spent from HKCS account. You can raise your question in the general body meeting.
      for $ 100 contribution you have this much feeling. Then think how much we have for our $ 3000. should be 30 times.

      If you cannot see the love and feeling of your siblings how can you see GOD in the church. Or repay our money and go ahead with your church feelings. Per Section 501(c) we have the right to ask this money back. Don't take it granted or advantage since we are not asking for it.

      By calling a general body meeting Mission could have saved $33,000/ Why don't you have guts to ask this question to Mission authorities. When Bishop Angadieth asked this question Priest kept mum.
      Keep same emotion there also.

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    4. August 13, 2013 at 9:22 AM

      Very true Anonymous.

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    5. Angadiyil thotta thinu ammakku neree.
      ( Not bishop Angadieth, angadi in the sense of market)

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    6. PROVE THAT WE LOST MILLIONS IN THE CHURCH BUYING PROCESS. IN USA EVERYTHING RUN ON EVIDENCE BASED PROVED FACTS.WE ARE NOT FOOLS TO BELIEVE THE GOSSIP CREATED BY MAFIA.WE ALL KNOW THAT BY BUILDING A CHURCH, MAFIA CAN SWALLOW A LOT MORE MONEY FROM THE COMMUNITY AND STILL WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FINISH THE CONSTRUCTION FOR YEARS.WE SHOULD HAVE LOST A LOT MORE MONEY IF WE STARTED BULIDING A CHURCH HERE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF MAFIA AND THEIR ALLIES.YOU GUYS ARE TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED BY THE FACT THAT YOU ALL LOST THOSE BIG MILLIONS AS COMMISSION. WE UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTARTION.WE ARE SORRY WE COULD NOT CATER YOUR SELFISH MOTIVES.
      IF YOU ARE DARE ENOUGH PROVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LOST MILLIONS IN THE CHURCH BUYING PROCESS

      YOU PRANCHIS ONLY PAID 3000 AND TALKING BIG ABOUT MILLIONS LOST .WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO PAID 3000 AND MORE AND,PAYING THEIR DUES.

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    7. You are keeping on paying for himalayam debts and so you are called as xxxxxxxxxx.
      Use your sense when someone says how we lost the money. If you are in the market to buy a used car or house do you negotiate with seller for better offer or not.
      here we payed extra amount and you are trying to justify it.
      it is just a matter of commonsense my fried.
      and again churchocracy is loosing thousands and you are all happy.
      OK PAY, PRAY, FEEL THAT YOU ARE GREAT AND ENJOY YOUR DAYS.

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    8. AnonymousAugust 13, 2013 at 9:22 AM

      Hi,
      For your information not a single penny is spent from HKCS account.
      Where did that money came from? mafia?

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    9. DON'T ASSUME
      GET OUT OF YOUR SHELL AND FIND OUT.
      (SORRY YOU PEOPLE CANNOT THINK YOURSELF. YOUK NOW TO JUST OBEY TO COMMUNITY CRIMINLAS)

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    10. DID YOU MEAN COMMINITY CRIMINALS WHICH INCLUDES YOU????????

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  15. Don't be a frog in a well, raise your head and look around. Which church other than this one put the condition which says that " we will not teach the Bible to your kid unless you pay the money" ? What kind of moral is that? Jesus asked to go around the world and teach Bible. and a church is saying " pay the money first to learn Bible "....hahahaha and you call it a church and call the donkey who say it a Priest?

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    1. You keep your money in your lap and we teach your kids bible for free?

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  16. Hello Sajan,
    Do not listen to Kizekel UNNI
    Do not listen to KCCNA
    Do not listen to M-9 group
    Do not listen to Muthu
    Do not listen to Fr.Manaputam
    Do not listen to fr.Meledom
    Do not listen to your friends


    LISTEN TO YOURSELF AND PRAY. YOU WILL GET THE ANSWERS AND STRENGTH. YOU WON'T REGRET LATER.

    YOU ALWAYS WILL BE PEACE WITH YOUR DECISION

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  17. It was mentioned by very senior members that the community center was also built with lot of corruption under the leadership of Sr. Parayan. There were a lot of complaints and finally the money ended up with who put it in their pockets. We got a community center for 1.2 million which is still appraised for less than 500 thousand. So this is our right. Just keep quiet and enjoy the action behind you.

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  18. Parayan explained that all those corruptions were done under the counsel of an attorney and things were very transparent. Comments from Knanaya homes welcome.

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    1. I was here from the beginning of this mission. The community center was a 'VELLAANA' from the beginning. Now we are old. Let the youngsters take control of the things.

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  19. Time has come we should stop the witch hunt. That will destroy he community.



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  20. HOUSTON SOLN
    BUILD ONE MORE CHURCH IN THE KCS PROPERTY.
    THEN U CAN SELL THE PRESENT CHURCH....
    GOOD LUCK!!!!

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    1. You are the builder? No building something no personal gain.

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    2. Houston Solution:

      1) Build a new church in KCS property.
      2) Provide building contract to our Knanaya Builder who build the Knanaya Homes.
      3) Let the builder build a cheep building and make some money and share some of it with Sojan & Co.
      4) For everything we buy for the new church let Aniyan Bhava and Chettan Bhava make some commission. They can not live without commission, so please help.
      5) Buy the property near to the community center which was bought by Naychor family for double price. So that they will also be happy.
      6) Let Kizhakkel Unni and the Thathan be appointed as deecans.
      7) All other knanaya families just pay and keep mum.
      What a great solution!!!!.

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    3. Now the builders are coming against the buyers. They lost the tea between the cup and the lip, you corrupt church buying mafia, you spilled it. They will get you.

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    4. August 13, 2013 at 2:25 PM

      Then where will we build the chicken house gym? We brothers need big big commission for that. chotta brother is looking to be next president just to pocket that money. You keep quiet.

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    5. DO THE NAYCHOR FAMILY STILL OWN THE PROPERTY NEAR KNA HOMES?

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    6. Naychor family still holding the land and hopes that another church will be built near the community center and at that time they could sell that land to Knanaya peoples for triple price. They are sure that the new church will not get city permission without additional land. What a kanja bhudhi sirji!!!!!

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    7. The deal was that naichor will donete this 10K land to church and church has to give the construction contract to naichor and co inc that includes Parayans and brothers ambals ans vettis kaithakkattil, thayyalkkar, manakkunnavar etc. etc. but never ask what final price they complete the construction, it will be the price of 3-4 churchs. But you just keep quiet. What an idea sirji. Now they are telling there is correuption in church buying.

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  21. TO HOUSTON KNANAYA COMMUNITY,
    I do not belong to any group[ church or society]. My observation on our community is that a few people from both sides polluting this community for their personal gain and poor laymen just listen to them. We need both society and church to grow. This can happen only if we identify and reject the so called radicals and come united as a neutral group which support both society and church. I request all the well-wishers to respond.

    C'mon people let us stay united and work together to bring peace and harmony to this community.

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    1. EVERY ONE IS AWARE OF SAJAN'S ROLE. WHAT ABOUT A COUPLE OF OTHER EXECUTIVES. HENNESSY UDE EMPTY BOTTLE KAANICHAL TRASH PORAKKUNNA
      JOIN THENDI(SORRY SECRETARY),MARUKARA PRANCHI- JOINT STRAIGHT AAKIYA VAYIL NOKKI. AAREYUM ILICHUKATTUNNA ATTUKAL MISCHELLE.

      EE MYRU...ARIYAVUNNNA PANI ETTEDUTHAL PORE....

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    2. Jose kutty monee Dineshaa, kazhinja elactionil thottathinum, Achane theri paranjathinum poranjittu ivide keeri meyunnooo? Ninnte anthyam aduthu moneee

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    3. Nammude manukuttan evide...kaananillallo

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    4. hey mr.josekutty mind your language.this blog is not for checking your THERI VOCABULARY

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  22. It is with great excitement that Chicago KCS wants to inform that KCS Board of Directors took extra time to officially congratulate new DKCC leadership under the chairmanship of Dr. Shiens Akasala, when it convened on August 12, 2013 to discuss and plan future activities of KCS. Board members expressed full confidence in the chairmanship of Dr.Akasala who has an excellent proven record of having an unflinching stance when it comes to holding our age- old traditions and practices steadfast in the face of numerous forces trying to uproot those in the foreign soil. KCS Chicago hopes that his excellent organizational skill and impressive erudition will be in full display during his tenure taking DKCC into new heights of recognition and achievement and wishes him and other office bearers all the best!
    HAHAHA ANTHAPPAN & MYALU OOMPI
    KCCNA YE PEDICHU DKCC CAMPIL NINNUM ODIYA GEORGEKUTTY ELAKKA PRANCHI OOOMMM
    NOW THEY ARE FORCED TO EAT THEIR OWN SHI***

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    1. KCCNA SCREW DKCC when shines was president

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  23. TO HOUSTON KNANAYA COMMUNITY,
    I do not belong to any group[ church or society]. My observation on our community is that a few people from both sides polluting this community for their personal gain and poor laymen just listen to them. We need both society and church to grow. This can happen only if we identify and reject the so called radicals and come united as a neutral group which support both society and church. I request all the well-wishers to respond.

    C'mon people let us stay united and work together to bring peace and harmony to this community.

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    1. If you want to join such a group in Houston send an email to knanaya.janatha@gmail.com identifying yourself with contact number. We will let you know the next meeting location and time to unite and discuss amoung us as to how to save this community from the radicals.

      knanaya.janatha@gmail.com

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    2. Dear Knanaya Janatha,

      If you want to order Vada or any snacks for the meeting please let me know. I could supply it to you and get some commission out of it. Also if any one of you knows that any of the knanaya peoples are going to die then please let me know so that I could book the funeral home and cemetery well in advance and make some commission out of that too. Please help me we neendoor brothers (Aniyan Bhava & Chettan Bhava)can not live without commission.

      Thank you in advance
      Aniyan Bhava

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    3. August 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM

      It is to save this community from the heavy burden of such commissions the radicals put on you we are starting this step. No radicals are welcome. Tired of UUDDF burden LLDDF burden etc. We can have a church and society running for us at a fourth of the price we pay now.

      knanaya.janatha@gmail.com

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    4. This will make a vote bank for the next election.

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  24. this message is for those people who came to houston after the purchase of the church,until 2011 the total amount paid by community member for both society and mission was 250 and 200 respectively.society had 250 from 2004 . out of which 75 dollars is spend per family on picnics if i am not mistaken.so the figure comes to 375 dollars.now ask any financial experts how much will this 375 (in 2004)be equilant in 2012 or 2013 now doubt its 600 (500 plus 100) due to increase in cost and inflation.THIS IS THE FACT,but if you are influenced by groups then you would act that i am not getting the math

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  25. Both UDF and LDF sucks.

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    1. If there are people to do it who will say no?

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  26. The mafia is fighting against their own shadows. they will realize soon and will regret their attempts to jeopardize the church and it's existence. Having a church of our own for our spiritual activities and boost the social activities is not a small thing. as some one pointed in one of the comment, launch an official and authorized investigations and bring the truth out about the so called corruptions. that is acceptable rather than these unwanted and unholy war and division of the community.

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    1. Absolutely.Bring the truth to the public instead of just making the gossip and confusing people.Take it as a challenge and prove the corruption if you have the gutz.

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  27. ക്നാനായ വിശേഷം കണിയാനെ സ്വന്തക്കാരനായ കാരക്കാടന് കൊണ്ട് പണം മുത്തു കൊടുപ്പിച്ചു എഴുത്ത് നിറുത്തി എന്ന് കേള്ക്കുന്നു. സ്വിസ് ബാങ്കിലേക്ക് പണം ഒഴുക്കിയോ മുത്തു കത്തനാരെ

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